February 20, 2024


DUBAI: Israel’s brutal battle in Gaza is threatening to finish the existence of Palestinian Christians in each the enclave and the occupied West Financial institution, Rev. Munther Isaac of the Evangelical Lutheran Christmas Church in Bethlehem has mentioned.


Showing on “Frankly Talking,” the Arab Information weekly present, the Palestinian pastor didn’t mince phrases whereas talking on subjects starting from the Church’s place on the battle as to if the West has begun turning on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.


“It’s a genocide. Israel instructed the world what it’s doing, what it needs to do, and details converse for themselves,” he mentioned.


“How was the killing of 1000’s of youngsters self-defense? How is that associated to Oct. 7? How was the displacement of near 2 million folks self-defense?”



Rev. Munther Isaac of the Evangelical Lutheran Christmas Church in Bethlehem spoke with Katie Jensen on Frankly Talking. (Arab Information picture)


Militants led by the Palestinian group Hamas killed round 1,300 folks, largely civilians, in an unprecedented assault on southern Israeli communities on Oct. 7 final yr. One other 250 folks had been taken hostage, in line with Israel.


The occasions triggered Israel’s retaliatory assault on Gaza, which has killed greater than 26,000 Palestinians, in line with native well being officers, and decreased huge swathes of the enclave to rubble.


“It grew to become clear to us, particularly as Palestinians, within the very first few weeks of the battle, even days, that that is an try to finish life in Gaza as we all know it,” Isaac mentioned.


The battle has had a ripple impact past Gaza, with the tens of 1000’s of Christians who reside within the West Financial institution additionally struggling, Isaac added.


“Right here within the West Financial institution, many Palestinian Christian households have already omitted of concern. They take a look at what was taking place in Gaza they usually suppose, ‘might this occur to us at some point?’”


Isaac mentioned it’s “unattainable to thrive as a neighborhood within the midst of battle, oppression and occupation.


“Life right here was so troublesome earlier than Oct. 7; it’s much more troublesome now. Many have misplaced their jobs as a result of there isn’t a tourism. Jerusalem is totally blocked now, remoted from us.”



Rev. Munther Isaac of the Evangelical Lutheran Christmas Church in Bethlehem spoke with Katie Jensen on Frankly Talking. He mentioned Israel’s actions in Gaza quantity to genocide and are utterly unrelated to the Oct. 7 Hamas-led assault. (Arab Information picture)


Isaac’s neighborhood had been already a minority coping with their very own challenges even previous to Oct. 7, with simply round 1,000 Christians residing in Gaza.


Although Israel typically touts itself as a protector of Christians within the Center East, the bombing campaigns in Gaza have laid waste to properties and church buildings of Palestinian Christians there.


“There may be this phantasm that Israel treats Christians favorably or in a particular approach. And if something, this battle made positive that this isn’t true,” Isaac instructed Katie Jensen, the host of “Frankly Talking.”


The bombing of Gaza’s Greek Orthodox Saint Porphyrius Church on Oct. 19 claimed the lives of a minimum of 18 Palestinian civilians who had been sheltering within the church. Two months later, Israeli snipers reportedly shot and killed a mom and daughter as they left the only Catholic Church in Gaza.


“Everybody who sees what occurred in Gaza realizes that everyone is a goal. Church buildings weren’t protected. Christians took refuge within the church buildings pondering that they had been protected, however evidently, they had been mistaken,” Isaac mentioned.


Although the already-small Gazan Christian neighborhood has been struck a very extreme blow with the deaths of a lot of its members, Isaac made it clear that he didn’t search any particular remedy for Palestine’s Christians.


“I don’t suppose we need to be handled in a particular approach,” he mentioned. “We wish an finish to the battle. We wish an finish to the occupation.


“We need to contribute in a actuality through which there are equal rights to all residents. We need to really feel as equals to everybody else on this land, Muslims and Jews.”


Shifting on to South Africa’s case in opposition to Israel on the Worldwide Courtroom of Justice in The Hague, Isaac reiterated that Israel’s actions in Gaza quantity to genocide and are utterly unrelated to the Oct. 7 assault.


He expressed shock over “the truth that Western international locations that boast on a regular basis about human rights and worldwide regulation are prepared to show such a blind eye to one thing like this.”


He praised South Africa’s initiation of the proceedings in opposition to Israel, which started on the finish of December final yr.


The ICJ handed down its ruling on Jan. 26, ordering Israel to “stop genocide and desist from killing, injuring, destroying life and stopping births,” allow the supply of humanitarian providers, and submit common reviews to the court docket.


Regardless of ruling in South Africa’s favor on many accounts, the judgement stopped wanting ordering a right away ceasefire — and plenty of are skeptical that the ruling will probably be enforceable or something greater than symbolic.


Nonetheless, for Isaac, it will be important that “Israel understand that there are international locations (and) leaders prepared to face agency and take brave positions. Israel has been doing what it’s been doing as a result of nobody ever held Israel accountable.”


He mentioned: “I used to be happy simply with the concept that all of the crimes of Israel have been displayed in entrance of the entire world to see.


“I’m very happy that it’s a rustic like South Africa that led the efforts, as a result of they’ve the ethical credibility and authority to discuss such points. A rustic that endured colonization and apartheid has the credibility to talk in opposition to colonization and apartheid, and a genocide.”


Throughout his Christmas sermon final yr, an emotional plea titled “Christ within the Rubble,” Isaac delivered a scathing condemnation of what he considered as hypocrisy, double requirements and silence practiced by each Western nations and the church.


“Within the shadow of the empire they flip the colonizer into the sufferer and the colonized into the oppressor,” he mentioned.


In his now-viral sermon, Isaac slammed what he noticed because the hypocrisy of Western states, saying: “To our European buddies, I by no means, ever need to hear you lecture us on human rights or worldwide regulation once more. And I imply this.”


Whereas Palestinians have witnessed the world’s help, from the ICJ ruling to mass protests and outpourings of solidarity internationally, others weren’t so eager to criticize Israel for its actions. The US, UK and Germany, amongst others, opposed the judgment.


With an increasing number of civilians dying on account of its bombardment and army operations in Gaza, there are indicators that even Israel’s strongest allies are starting to distance themselves. Isaac, although, sees any indicators of help from main Western powers as far as empty phrases.


“For months now, we’ve heard that America has put some crimson traces to Israel as to what it could do and what it can not do. And all these crimson traces have been crossed,” he mentioned.


For Isaac, “something America says concerning the battle involves us as empty phrases. Till we see it, we’ll (not) consider it. And to be trustworthy, this has been a very powerful ingredient that empowered Israel and enabled Israel to commit such battle crimes, as a result of nobody is holding them accountable. You’ll be able to say no matter you need in press conferences, however it’s what details on the bottom are that issues to us.”


Deploring what he known as Christian-majority international locations’ failure to help Palestinian rights, he mentioned: “It’s very disappointing, and disheartening, to be trustworthy, particularly while you mix that with public statements from many of those international locations about their concern concerning the Christian presence within the Center East.


“But all they do is help insurance policies that endanger our presence. It’s so hypocritical and it’s so dismissive of our plights, our opinions, and our views. They by no means speak to us.”


“They don’t take a look at us Palestinians as equals, whether or not we’re Christians or Muslims. That is the guts of the problem,” he mentioned.


“They produce other plans. They’ve political ambitions. They’ve political alliances, and that’s what they care about probably the most (at) the expense of our presence, our actuality on the bottom.”


Along with calling out the silence or double requirements of governments, Isaac criticized the stance of church buildings, a lot of whom as establishments stay silent even when congregants specific their help.


“Church leaders should not talking for his or her folks. I believe the folks clearly understand there’s extreme injustice, they usually’re very involved about what is occurring in Gaza. But church leaders are paralyzed to talk and to problem Israel for what it’s doing.”


He was requested if non secular place actually issues in a largely secular world, the place politics and upcoming elections clearly have the higher hand.


“I hope it does, and the query is, which non secular place issues,” he mentioned. “Allow us to not overlook that Israel makes use of the Bible to justify what it’s doing.


“Many Christians help Israel for theological beliefs and definitely many, not simply Jewish teams, use faith to justify exclusivity and fundamentalism and the denial of the rights of the opposite.”


Isaac didn’t draw back from calling on religion leaders to take a powerful stance on Gaza, saying “it’s time that the voices that consider in inclusivity, in peace, in justice and equality make their voices heard, and never in a diplomatic good approach.


“I’m drained, to be trustworthy, of religion leaders simply calling for peace and praying for peace,” he mentioned.


“We have to name issues out by their identify. There’s a system of apartheid in our nation. It’s time to converse to uphold these ideas.”


As a non secular determine, what’s Isaac’s place on the proper of Jews to have the ability to reside in peace, notably on condition that Jerusalem is a shared holy web site for the three Abrahamic faiths?


“Everyone has the proper to reside in peace in all places,” he mentioned. “When Western Christian leaders press us on this, I say Jews ought to have the proper and freedom to reside in peace in all places, in the USA, in Europe, even in Arab international locations.


“We must be able the place Jews don’t really feel threatened anyplace.”


Elaborating on the purpose, he mentioned: “It appears that evidently the entire world is decided to ensure Jews are protected, however not of their land, in our land. After which they blame us for it as if we’re antisemites, whereas antisemitism is what drove Jews from Europe to start with, to return to our land.”


Isaac mentioned he doesn’t “need to see Israel destroyed or Jews depart,” including that he desired a future through which his youngsters “could have Israeli buddies.


“It’s not simply to finish the battle, however to reside in a actuality through which we’re buddies and neighbors with the Israelis,” he mentioned.


Whereas security and equality for all is a precedence, Isaac mentioned Palestinians’ proper to exist shouldn’t be negated.


“The world was okay with Israel shifting an increasing number of and extra to the proper, brazenly saying there’ll by no means be a Palestinian state, brazenly saying solely Jews have a proper to the land, after which electing brazenly racist leaders, persevering with with the constructing of settlements for all these years, ensuring there can by no means be a Palestinian state, after which blaming the Palestinians for it,” he mentioned.


“It doesn’t make any sense to me. So, until we as a world neighborhood, as religion leaders, unite and name for this concept of justice and equal rights, it is not going to occur.”